“I pinched myself twice”: Apolline de Malherbe shocked by her guest's comments about Jean-Marie Le Pen

Interviewed on BFMTV, on Tuesday, January 21, 2025, facing Apolline de Malherbe, Alain Bauer returned to a speech by Jean-Marie Le Pen, which left him speechless.

© BFMTV In front of Apolline de Malherbe, Alain Bauer returned to a speech by Jean-Marie Le Pen, which left him speechless.

IN BRIEF

• On January 21, 2025, Apolline de Malherbe interviewed Alain Bauer on BFMTV to discuss his book 'The Conquest of the West'.
• Alain Bauer surprised by quoting a speech by Jean-Marie Le Pen advocating the integration of Arabs and Muslims.
• Discover how Alain Bauer deconstructs the notion of the great replacement in his work.

This Tuesday, January 21, 2025, Apolline de Malherbe received Alain Bauer, famous criminologist who came to promote his book The Conquest of the West, published by editions Fayard. In this work, the specialist returns to immigration and tries to twist the false information on this subject.

And here it is that during his interview, Alain Bauer will come out with a rather astonishing sentence : “And I rely on the exceptional speech on page 275 of the book, which I will let readers discover who the author is”, he indicates. To which, the BFMTV journalist will indicate: “It is a speech by Jean-Marie Le Pen. “Yes, incredible (…) He says ‘let's integrate the Arabs, the Muslims, the Algerians, çit serves our demography”, he explains. 

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Apolline de Malherbe's guest speechless about his discoveries about Jean-Marie Le Pen

Enough to leave Apolline de Malherbe speechless: “Aren't you rehabilitating Jean-Marie Le Pen ? It's rather the opposite of what you do in the rest of the book, almost like a snub that you're making at him”.

For Alain Bauer, this speech is “formidable”. “I pinched myself twice anyway. I was checked that it was indeed he who had really said “that“, he says. But yes, it was indeed the founder of the National Front who had indeed given this acceptance speech. 

The journalist asks about the notion of great replacement

During this interview, Apolline de Malherbe also questioned Alain Bauer on the notion of great replacement, which is often chanted, in particular by the extreme right. “It's almost an anti-Zemmour book, your book”, she throws at him.

To which the specialist replies: “The fundamental question is: I don't have an opinion. I want to give people the means to form their own opinion. So this work is historical, technical, legal”, specifies Alain Bauer who thus refutes the thesis of the great replacement. “The great replacement, in fact it is not the great replacement, it is the great filling. It is our demography that poses a problem for us. The others, we have been looking for them since the Great Crisis”, the criminologist is keen to point out. Explanations that put poorly many theories.